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UNIDENTIFIED Journalist #ane: At present things finally going the way of the challenger, Bianca Belair. She has a champion reeling, finally.

UNIDENTIFIED Journalist #2: Prissy double underhook on the champ.

UNIDENTIFIED ANNOUNCER #i: Face-get-go goes Becky Lynch.

AYESHA RASCOE, HOST:

What a functioning by WWE wrestler Bianca Belair a couple weeks ago. She whooped Becky Lynch, winning her start RAW women'due south championship. But not only is Belair a talented wrestler; she's one of the WWE fiercest Black wrestlers. And according to industry watchers, Blackness wrestlers are really having a moment. To help united states empathise more than is wrestling columnist Alfred Konuwa, who joins u.s.a. now from Los Angeles. Welcome.

ALFRED KONUWA: Thanks and so much for having me. It's great to be here.

RASCOE: So showtime, talk to us a bit almost how Blackness wrestlers accept traditionally been depicted in the wrestling industry. Like, information technology has been extremely racist in the past. Am I wrong about that?

KONUWA: You're absolutely right. Historically, Blackness wrestlers accept been treated as more bit players and usually security guards, usually potent, silent types, but besides, especially when information technology comes to them speaking and having speaking roles traditionally, they play into stereotypes in terms of maybe what somebody who is not familiar with Black culture thinks a Black person talks like, acts like. And so it has lent itself to some pretty racially insensitive programming over the years when it comes to pro wrestling. And I tin't honestly say that it's all the style out of the wrestling atmosphere because it is kind of an old boys' network. Only it is getting meliorate. Like you lot said, Black people are having a moment.

RASCOE: At present, I accept to say, my blood brother growing up and, like, my uncles - they were really into wrestling. And I knew people were however into wrestling, merely I hadn't really seen wrestling until recently. My son, my 8-yr-old, has gotten really into wrestling. Like, he wants to watch information technology to get to sleep. So I am interested in - like, what is it similar now?

KONUWA: Well, it is improving. And I was that 8-year-old boy once upon a time - 8-year-old Black boy watching wrestling. And I'g so jealous of your son because he's got so many not bad Black wrestlers to look up to now. For me, my hero growing up was a guy named Ahmed Johnson. That was my hero in terms of wrestling. And he kind of flamed out of the business concern and didn't amount to being a huge superstar. But it was the first time in my life I'd always seen a Blackness person being pushed, equally they say, to, like, the main result.

Now your son has so many great Black wrestlers to choose from and and then many different promotions. I mean, it's Bianca Belair, similar yous mentioned, who but came off of what I experience is the greatest women's match in the history of WrestleMania confronting Becky Lynch. Bianca Belair is incredible. Final twelvemonth at WrestleMania 37, I wrote an article for Forbes, and I called it the Blackest WrestleMania of all time because it was. It was the outset fourth dimension two Black men had competed for a title. It was the first time two Blackness women had main evented WrestleMania.

RASCOE: So wrestling, obviously - there's a lot that happens on phase or in the ring...

KONUWA: Yep.

RASCOE: ...Simply in that location'south a lot that happens backside the scenes, similar, y'all know, writing the storylines and the executives. Like, how are Black people doing in those areas?

KONUWA: Pro wrestling just had its first Black woman executive in Brandi Rhodes when it comes to AEW. But AEW has had its own problems with representation, variety or Black excellence, as I like to call it, in terms of booking Black people in prominent positions.

RASCOE: And AEW is All Elite Wrestling?

KONUWA: Yes, All Elite Wrestling. They're a new company, very entertaining. I really love what they're doing. And what I beloved about the fact that AEW is this new wrestling company, is now there's really an established Black wrestling media. There's more Black wrestling fans, I experience like, than ever in terms of - merely from my standpoint, watching wrestling. And so the Black narrative is actually a existent thing. You know, AEW has been held accountable from day one in terms of - in its three years of beingness, four years of existence, from 24-hour interval one, people accept kind of come out, myself included, and kind of held them accountable in terms of promoting Black people at a respectable level.

RASCOE: Obviously, you are very passionate about wrestling. And every bit a Black man who, this is your passion, like, what has it meant to y'all to see the modify in representation?

KONUWA: The reason that I'm focused on Black people is not nearly equality. It's really about wrestling being mainstream again considering wrestling - I talked to Nick Khan. He's WWE's chief acquirement officer. He's one of the large head honchos in WWE. And WWE's main goal, he told me, is to make their audience younger. I got news for you. That'southward not happening without Blackness culture because professional wrestling is really just a microcosm of America. And in America, we're seeing this where Black people are still fighting for their voting rights. Black people still feel like they're not getting enough seats at the table, executive positions. Wrestling is only a product of that in that you wait at wrestling, and it'southward the same story.

RASCOE: That was wrestling columnist Alfred Konuwa. Thank you so much.

KONUWA: Thanks and then much, Ayesha. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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